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Post by ryk on Mar 2, 2007 22:13:15 GMT
my little boy. He´s playing with Cathrine.
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Post by mayahund on Mar 2, 2007 22:52:38 GMT
That litter of bb's just have to be the best temperaments bb's that has ever been produced He is absolutely gorgeous - as always So is Catherine! She's going to be as tall as her mum! Catherine will be a handful this summer at the BBQ She's too used to bb's - ans she will walk by then - Arrrgghh - be aware Ewa
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Post by sandaharr on Mar 3, 2007 7:47:12 GMT
Fantastic pics.Both are beautiful.
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Post by buliebuse on Mar 3, 2007 10:05:53 GMT
Lovely pics of these soooo dangerous dogs ;D Ju
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Post by bulietaz on Mar 3, 2007 20:54:23 GMT
hi just imagine his suprise when little one starts walking not crawling. will he try to imitate. . . cris
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Post by temwani on Mar 4, 2007 12:10:03 GMT
Hi,
He his a beautiful dog and she is a lovely baby and it is great that they are such good friends but I do think we have to be careful about pictures like these.
Sadly some people don't have control over their dogs nor children and they don't socialise either.
When they then leave their baby and dog to play alone horrific accidents happen.
Please don't misunderstand me, I am not criticising you doing this with your dog and baby I have no doubt that they are both perfectly safe. I just think we have a job to do educating other people on how to train their dog and how to manage the interaction with children and other non-dog aware members of the family.
It is interesting watching the dog training TV programmes where the primary cause of behaviour problems is people treating dogs as children and not as dogs.
Sorry if this is controversial.
Geri
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Post by ryk on Mar 4, 2007 19:53:03 GMT
Hi, He his a beautiful dog and she is a lovely baby and it is great that they are such good friends but I do think we have to be careful about pictures like these. Sadly some people don't have control over their dogs nor children and they don't socialise either. When they then leave their baby and dog to play alone horrific accidents happen. Please don't misunderstand me, I am not criticising you doing this with your dog and baby I have no doubt that they are both perfectly safe. I just think we have a job to do educating other people on how to train their dog and how to manage the interaction with children and other non-dog aware members of the family. It is interesting watching the dog training TV programmes where the primary cause of behaviour problems is people treating dogs as children and not as dogs. Sorry if this is controversial. Geri I know that not all dogs are like Ryk. I´ve been working with Ryk (pulling his tale, ears and lips, not hard, but in a way so that he would see it as cudle) since the day we got him, preparing him for the day we would have a baby. Ryk will let Cathrine take his toys, and he will not try to take them. If I try to take his toys while he´s playing with them, he will try to play with me, but not with her. He is so great with her. I also want to say that I never leave them alone, when I take the pictures I´m no more than 1,5 meter away.
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Post by temwani on Mar 4, 2007 21:37:07 GMT
Hi,
I naturally assumed this is what you would do - the problem is other people. It is such a big job, (which you have clearly done) training a dog to be like this. What worries me is the people who will buy a puppy with a reputed "good temperament" and expect it to behave like yours automatically.
I am adamant that I could take a "poor temperament" puppy and turn it into a "good dog" and vice versa take a "good temperament" puppy and make it into a "bad dog". (Not that I would want to!)
This is what un-intentionally too many people do - that is why the dog homes are full of eighteen month old large male dogs.
We just have to keep trying to educate people - this is what Shaun and Anne are doing with their puppy socialisation groups.
Geri
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Post by buliebuse on Mar 5, 2007 10:01:38 GMT
Helene & Geri Firstly I whole heartedly agree with you Helene & know where you are coming from.No matter what breed , dogs are still animals & we also never leave Buse around children unsupervised.Our garden is also railed part way up so that children can run about etc without the 'risk' of Buse thinking what a good game I'll join in - she is denied access. When I was young my smaller brother along with quite a few other children were all playing in the back garden.We had the softest Labrador then - BUT with the excitement of it all she joined in grabbed my little bro by the ankle & he went face first through a patio door. I don't know if you have children Geri , but one thing is for sure when you are a Mum, no matter how much you love your dog,your child will always be first & foremost your main priority. Regards Ju
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Post by ryk on Mar 5, 2007 11:53:15 GMT
Hi, I naturally assumed this is what you would do - the problem is other people. It is such a big job, (which you have clearly done) training a dog to be like this. What worries me is the people who will buy a puppy with a reputed "good temperament" and expect it to behave like yours automatically. I am adamant that I could take a "poor temperament" puppy and turn it into a "good dog" and vice versa take a "good temperament" puppy and make it into a "bad dog". (Not that I would want to!) This is what un-intentionally too many people do - that is why the dog homes are full of eighteen month old large male dogs. We just have to keep trying to educate people - this is what Shaun and Anne are doing with their puppy socialisation groups. Geri I know how people are with dogs, that is why I wrote what I have done with him. Hoping that (if they should see the picture) they would read all the text as well.
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Post by sandaharr on Mar 5, 2007 15:50:29 GMT
Anyway,can't hold back my opinion of the beautiful pic that Helene put up of both her babies.I think a pic like that is a fantastic advert for the breed,I LOVE seeing pics like that,and I don't even like kids!! ;D. Geri,of course Helene wouldn't leave them unsupervised.I fully understand what you were saying about the supervision thing but come on,we don't have to be careful posting pics like this,the more the merrier.Isn't it obvious that somebody was RIGHT THERE!! LOL,Geri -lighten up and just enjoy the pic for what it is, a BB being with it's family.
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Post by temwani on Mar 5, 2007 22:44:11 GMT
Sandra,
I did enjoy the picture I just want other people who are not as educated as we are about dogs and children to realise that loads of work goes into creating a dog and child like this. Sadly we know only too well from the recent tragic accidents in GB that not all people know. Can you imagine leaving a trained attack dog with a five year old? It happened! Some will just look at the picture and not read the writing with it.
I feel the same about bite photos of BBs as a young breed we need to be very careful, it would only take one really bad incident for them to be banned. More importantly as you say quite rightly a child would be hurt in the process. I have thousands of children and a child's life is infinately precious. Sadly some people don't take as much care. Of course I was not implying a lack of supervision or safety in taking this photo - It is what other people will read from it!We have to be realistic about the difference between a bite from a spaniel and a bite from a BB and make sure that other people do to.
Geri
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Post by bulieboerboels on Mar 17, 2007 19:51:41 GMT
Good points raised by everyone.Have to say wonderful photos of dog and baby.You must be very proud of them both.Thanks for sharing with us.Regards Paul.
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