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Post by buliebuse on Aug 30, 2008 11:54:48 GMT
Hi Guys
Can any of you prove to me that a 'house' kept BB as opposed to a kenneled one that is just run out with others twice a day or so etc live in harmony with not only its same breed but other breeds 24/7.
This would mean no dog gates to separate or different rooms etc.
No cages in house etc.
I truly do not believe that a BB will live 24/7 with another dog without there being issues - it seems to be the nature of the breed.
All of the above obviously only relates to 'ADULT' BBs.
If this is the case then prospective owners should be told surely?
If not I am more than happy to visit & see for myself that I am wrong.
Regards
Ju
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Aug 30, 2008 15:23:18 GMT
Hi Julie, we sold a female Boerboel (when she was 8 weeks old) who is now 5 years old. She lives with a mops??(adult), a Bullmastiff (adult) and a 1 year old female BB without any problems. They are all house dogs. They have bones and treats that they share without fights. The old BB rules and the others never question her leadership.
We have 3 adult BB's living together 24/7, a 4 year old male and 2 females that are between 2 and 2½ years old. They are kennel dogs.
Anne
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Post by nepstein on Aug 30, 2008 23:01:33 GMT
Ju IMO the diversity, and I mean diversity, of other many breeds that has gone into the makeup of what is now know as a Boerboel makes defining any collective behavior almost impossible at this time. Can Boerboels live together? Yes. Can dominate Boerboels of the same sex live together in harmony? Not likely. Not just because they are Boerboels but because of two dominate dogs living in close proximity is an accident waiting to happen. In the example Anne gave all other dogs were submissive to one, but what if they all weren’t submissive, would the harmony that is in evidence now still prevail, I think not. Some breeds such as the Malamute have more of a dominance issue than others breeds and because of the particular breeds that are part and parcel of the Boerboel some of this dominance will often shown itself. That said the good news is the mastiff type in general is not as susceptible to pack hierarchy as say the herder types so the chances, all things being equal, are better than most. Regards Norman
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Aug 31, 2008 5:01:02 GMT
Hello Norman, you are right that dominating dogs of the same sex would have problems, it is important that the rules regarding pack dynamics are obeyed. It should also be said that our 2 stud males tolerate each other, and no fights have happened at the present time, but I would also add that we are carefull in avoiding situations that can lead to problems, ie the presence of a female in heat. Both males show an incredible tolerance towards other males, 3 years ago I would never have believed that 2 male Boerboels could be so tolerant.
I think it is a bit dangerous to generalise, I am sure that there is at least a partial representation of the Ridgeback in most Boerboels, and that is a hound. The Boerboel seems to us to be a natural dog with a dog language that is more clear and understandable than other "civilised"
races.
Shaun
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Post by buliebuse on Aug 31, 2008 12:42:49 GMT
Hi Anne
Excuse me once again for being dim - you stated you have 3 dogs living together, yet your last phrase was that they are kennel dogs?
Even if not would you leave them together unsupervised?
Regards
Ju
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Post by buliebuse on Aug 31, 2008 12:49:01 GMT
Hi Norman
Good to hear your take.
Does Gordo live alone or is he separated if you have other dogs?
I guess I'm a crap owner as as much as I have tried Buse will not tolerate another dog of either sex living in the house with her 24/7 when they reach a certain age.(She has been spayed)The first was a RR bitch & the 2nd was Sim a male BB.
Clash of the Titans springs to mind.
Would just like to 'get peoples heads out of the sand' on this issue.
Regards
Ju
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Aug 31, 2008 15:44:50 GMT
Hi Julie, they are together 24/7 and they never fight. They eat, sleep and play together in a very large kennel with an even larger outdoor kennel and they can go in and out as they please. I mentioned that they were kennel dogs just as I mentioned that the other dogs I talked about were house dogs. When we lived at our old house we had 4 females and 1 male, all adults living together. When we went to work the were in the house on their own and we never had any problems.  Kind regards Anne |
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Post by buliebuse on Aug 31, 2008 16:32:46 GMT
Fair play then Anne
I shall look forward if invited to coming over & visiting.
Regards
Ju
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Post by buliebuse on Aug 31, 2008 16:35:26 GMT
PS
What is the date of that photo out of interest?
Ju
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Aug 31, 2008 17:46:14 GMT
Ju, you are always welcome here. www.ryanair.com sell some really cheap tickets to Esbjerg ( via Stanstead) airport. Billund is also quite near to us. That photo is about 6 years old. regards Shaun |
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 1, 2008 9:50:13 GMT
Hiya Shaun
Might just take you up on that offer.
I tried to book a flight out to Sweden to go & see Eva & Goran this weekend, but the cheapest I could get was GBP1100 from Birmingham - crazy or what ?
Ju
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Post by bakkies on Sept 1, 2008 12:49:45 GMT
Bakkies lived 3 years together with my Pitbull male. Now he lives with a female German Shepered.
Bakkies had a lot of female hormones when Spike was alive. Spike was the boss and there was no doubt about that.
After 6 month after Spike died, he had no female hormones at all, his male hormones have increased. He is very dominate towards Hanja. If he had shown this behavior towards Spike, Spike would have kicked his ass (*sorry*)
Ju, maybe we all can meet at Anne´s house? Would be great, we are visiting them in November.
Regards
Meike
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 7, 2008 9:16:19 GMT
Hi Meike
That would be good as long as its ok with Shaun & Anne.
The 22nd November weekend is out as I shall be in Devon.
Regards
Ju
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Sept 8, 2008 4:15:23 GMT
Hello Ju, any weekend is ok with us as long as we get a bit of notice. Meike only lives about 120 miles from us so it should be possible for a get together.
Regards
Shaun
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 9, 2008 8:04:31 GMT
That would be good Shaun & thankyou.
Have just come back from 5 days up with Sandra & her gang - got proved seriously wrong re 2 BB's living in harmony.
Did however manage to return the favour of Sandra sleeping with Buse at Paul & Cris's, I managed to sneak Razzy into bed with me. LOL.
Shall hopefully post some pics later.
Regards
Ju
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 9, 2008 8:57:40 GMT
Hi Guys Some pics of my visit to Sandra & Harrys - once again a big thankyou to them both for putting up with me & letting me fall asleep whenever required. LOL.  Miss Trouble, Leila & Ami.  Martine(Aka Uma) & Tanner  Kizzy & Kuma  Razzy & JJ enjoying their new toy 'Aunie Ju' brought them.  Miss Trouble, JJ & Razzy being 'teased' by Mum.  Clive out with Buse when not raining. Floods are upon us again! Regards Ju |
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Post by countryboy on Sept 9, 2008 14:29:48 GMT
Great Pic's Ju...High on the puppy cute factor!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mayahund on Sept 9, 2008 19:56:45 GMT
Hi Ju! Great pic's. Clive's looking fit  As for multiple bb's living together. I had Chili and Mubi toghether for a long time but in no way effortless. One day it just didn't work anymore, cost me a fortune in vetbills. Now Chili lives with Totte, which works fine and Mubi lives with a bb male of her own. All three (four with Mubis male) are intact (gender). Ewa |
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Post by marty43 on Sept 9, 2008 20:44:58 GMT
hi ju ,
you might have let me brush my hair first. lol
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Post by urs on Sept 10, 2008 7:01:47 GMT
Hi Ju
You got some lovely piccies of the gang there. I wanted to say thanks for taking the "orka" as Sandra recommended it to me. We have been looking for other indestructable (well fairly anyway!) for Snoop, other than a kong for quite sometime. I bought him one yesterday he went crazy over it, now Snoop and Orka are inseperable!! ;D
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 10, 2008 8:31:53 GMT
Hi Ewa
Sorry to hear about Mube - but I'm sure she's doing great with her new BB friend & also know you probably still see her all the time! Clive is good & so is Buse.Did you have your BBQ last weekend?
Love to all
Ju
Hi Uma
Thankyou for allowing me to visit - Tanner is a lovely boy.
Re hair you 'cow' you still look good.Was pleased to see this morning that Victoria Beckham has copied my new hairstyle. LOL
Hi Ursula
They are great toys.Buse managed to destroy her Konga but as yet has not done so with the Orca.Its funny seeing them when you fill it with treats.Sim would roll it about the floor & the treats would drop out whereas Buse 'attacks' it to try & get at the treats - who said females are more intelligent?
Regards
Ju
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Post by countryboy on Sept 10, 2008 13:24:58 GMT
Ju,
What's an 'orca'? Is it the toy in the pic? My Boo just destroys everthing. I'm always on the look out for a new toy for her.
Simon
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 11, 2008 7:46:56 GMT
Hi Simon
Yes its the toy in the pic.The other 'spikes' without the rope can be filled with treats to keep 'little darlings' amused.
Also have a 'boomer ball' which Buse isn't that interested in as its too big for her to bite.
Also another good tip IMHO is a forklift tyre - they have no wire in them unlike car & lorry tyres - these can then be punctured & treats put in the outer or inner rim.
Regards
Ju
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Post by patience on Sept 11, 2008 8:38:12 GMT
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Post by nepstein on Sept 11, 2008 12:36:42 GMT
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 12, 2008 9:27:42 GMT
Hi Patience
Sorry for the post about forklift tyres not being clear - after 40+ years in the manufacturing business of tyres you forget.
There are 2 types - solids with no wire & pneumatics that are air compressed.Easy to spot the difference, the latter has a valve.
Regards
Ju
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 12, 2008 9:29:37 GMT
Hi Norman
Enjoyed the videos.
No the boomer is round & not shaped like a rugby ball.
Ju
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Post by mayahund on Sept 12, 2008 20:50:41 GMT
Since this has gone all OT by your own choice Ju (  ;D) I feel free to reply! My bunch won't go near neither the boomer ball or the egg! But give Chili any kind of traditional ball and she'll have a blast, even 5 minutes after getting it and "killing it"! We've learned the hard way to love having something slimy, slippery and sort of oval shaped tossed at us 24/7 ;D But they will all three play like mad with this tiny, tiny cat/small dog toy in latex with a very long tail without even puncturing it   So you tell me; is it my dogs or me that's weird ;D Ewa |
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 13, 2008 9:48:48 GMT
Hi Ewa
I told you attention span of a goldfish that's me! But was just replying to Simon & Norman re the Orca.
No you're not weird you daft lassie neither are your dogs.
Buse I don't think would fair well with a soft toy though - she is too prey driven.Her favourites are rabbit,fox, badger & pheasant - the latter she still hasn't work out that she'll never catch one as they fly !
Regards
Ju
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Post by mayahund on Sept 13, 2008 23:45:17 GMT
Hi Ewa I told you attention span of a goldfish that's me! But was just replying to Simon & Norman re the Orca. Did in NO way take it personally!!! ALL dogs are diffrent and my dogs like the Orca you brought us! No you're not weird you daft lassie neither are your dogs. There will probably be quite a few persons saying the opposite But then we all thrive! Little tip; keep a check on Chilis page, we've been to BBI appraisal in Denmark. But since our pc is currently working its own way we can't tell when we can update with pic's on Chilis homepage. |
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;D) I feel free to reply!
