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Post by countryboy on Dec 12, 2006 20:50:50 GMT
Hi all,
New to the site and yet to own a boerboel. :(Still on the long and winding road of research!
Yet to find anything about feeding.
How are the breed? are they thieves?dustbins?have you got to be careful as to food on worktops etc?
Also are there any objective books on the breed?
SP.....
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Post by buliebuse on Dec 13, 2006 9:07:45 GMT
Welcome Simon  As far as my BB goes she is too lazy to entertain jumping up to a work surface to snatch food unlike other breeds such as RRs. We just feed her on dry kibble am & pm & that seems to suit , along with a marrow bone from the butchers once a week. Haven't as yet managed to source a decent hard back book re the BB , but I know before we got ours we downloaded a very informative e-book from Shauns site on Anasha BBs. Ju |
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Post by bakkies on Dec 13, 2006 9:23:13 GMT
Hi Simon, none of my dogs have ever stolen food (ok, grandpa startet when he was getting older, now he steals  ). It´s all about what you teach your dog to do or not do do. I feed Magnusson dryfood (Meat and Bisquit, sometimes Kennel or Krav) and from time to time fresh meat ( I would not reccomend that on puppys and if you do not know exactly what to feed and how many). I do not let my dog work for food, I let him work for me and for his favourite ball. Meike |
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Post by mayahund on Dec 14, 2006 21:32:26 GMT
Hi Simon! Well I got to girls and they "never" steal!!! Except for that one time when they stole 2 kg's of semi frozen minced meat from the worktop while visiting Anasha.....Talk about teamwork! Me in the shower across the hall, hubby outside and 2 girls alone with 20 kg's of minced meat thawing in the kitchen...... Youngest (and largest one) got it down from the counter and oldest one ate it! How do I know that? I heard the barking from the young one and it certainly wasn't a bark of content ;D Youngest one also managed to steal a packet of hard bread (common in Sweden) - now this is slices of hard bread in a packet thats maybe 30 cm times 30 and the width maybe 10 cm. I had opened the packet and taken two slices out, rest was still in there. Opening was about 15 Cm's long and maybe maximum 5 Cm's wide - Now to the magic  - Without destroying the bread or the paper around it, Chili managed to take a tiny nibble out of each and everyone of the slices of bread in the packet And her head is a copy of the head on a bull mastiff ;D Except from those 2 incidents - Chili steals my Chile plants during summertime and has me chasing her through the garden....She never steals anything off the table or from hands or goes into dustbins. Neither does Mubi. But then again - I don't leave frozen chickens "unsafely guarded" on the counter top anymore - Just in case  Welcome to the board and hope you got lots of questions for us! Theres loads of accumulated wisdom in here from several countries! Ewa |
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Post by bulieboerboels on Dec 17, 2006 17:08:33 GMT
Hi Simon welcome to the board.We feed our dogs am and pm.Morning is toast and boiled eggs with a tiny bit of complete,pm is raw meat and complete.A couple of our dogs only eat if they are hungry and the others eat anything put in their bowls.Some will touch nothing until told to and meat etc on the kitchen side is quite safe but to others it would be fair game.
Regards Paul.
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Post by bulieboerboels on Dec 17, 2006 17:09:57 GMT
Hi Simon welcome to the board.We feed our dogs am and pm.Morning is toast and boiled eggs with a tiny bit of complete,pm is raw meat and complete.A couple of our dogs only eat if they are hungry and the others eat anything put in their bowls.Some will touch nothing until told to and meat etc on the kitchen side is quite safe but to others it would be fair game.
Regards Paul.
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Post by bulieboerboels on Dec 17, 2006 17:12:16 GMT
Sorry about the double posting my finger slipped.Forgot to add you will get some very sound advice on this board as everyone here is willing to advise or help.They also tell the truth warts and all.Regards Paul.
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Post by sandaharr on Dec 18, 2006 6:47:27 GMT
We feed complete in the morning and BARF at night,usually chicken backs,tripe and some veg pulp if I can be bothered to do it for them!!
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Post by buliebuse on Dec 18, 2006 9:11:30 GMT
Sandra Barf in this neck of the woods is something you would do after a heavy night out.Just what are you feeding them with ? Ju |
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Post by countryboy on Dec 18, 2006 21:00:24 GMT
Thanks for all your replies.Get the general feeling that food is not the top of there agendar.Have a rhodensian ridgeback and they seem to have a general name of being very greedy and dustbin like.Saying that mine's not,even the kids are safe with biscuits!
Still got lots of questions but have been trawling the pre posts.
There's two things the strike be about the whole boerboel fraternity is
1. how passionate everyone seems to be about the breed
2.How much politics between various sites and breeders/owners there are .If point 1 wasn't so strong it would be enough to put most people off the breed!
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Dec 19, 2006 15:10:22 GMT
We have used a lot of time trying to find the right foods for our dogs, we have not stopped looking yet, but we have some very specific requirements and it is not easy to find the right product.
We have 24 BBs and they eat on average 700g per day of kibble. The quality of the kibble has to be right, otherwise too much comes out of the other end, and that causes problems. Let me show you what we have found:
Low quality kibble: You will have to feed up to 1Kg / day and approximately the same weight will come out of the other end. 24 Kg of food every day = 24 Kg muck x 365 days = 8760 Kg/year. This is a problem as the more muck there is, the more chance the dogs will tread in it, the more chance of spreading worm eggs and other parasites. It also attracts flies.
Medium quality kibble: Same problems but with only 700g/day (6132 Kg/year)
High quality kibble: 500g/day (4380 Kg/year).
Raw meat: Raw meat is actually cheaper than the high and medium quality kibbles, and I am sure that the dogs thrive on it. There is nearly no waste and this helps keep the dogs and the kennel area very clean. It is also easy to feed, the only problem is the storage.
Looking at the problem through our eyes, it is definately a big advantage to feed BARF/raw meat and we do. Last week we were going through 12 x 1.4 Kg chickens every day. We also use medium and high quality kibbles. We keep our waste problem down to about 3 m3/year (about 3 tons) which is equivilent to each dog producing 340 g /day. The pregnant females and puppies always get a high quality kibble (regal large breeds puppy), they also get raw meat.
The kibble we use is preexpanded so that it does not enlarge in the stomach, we use Magnussons and Farmfood (Swedish and Dutch foods), this way we avoid torsion/stomach turning.
Regards
Shaun
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Post by countryboy on Dec 19, 2006 22:01:36 GMT
Thanks Shaun.Iv'e tried raw meet in the past[well,i haven't!] and agree there's less waste and the dogs generally love it. its just dry food which i guess is what your calling kibble is more convenient.I thought raw meat would be better being there a large breed..I think i'll read up on the 'barf' diet again.
Simon
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). It´s all about what you teach your dog to do or not do do. 
- Without destroying the bread or the paper around it, Chili managed to take a tiny nibble out of each and everyone of the slices of bread in the packet 
