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Post by buliebuse on Jan 15, 2007 9:28:19 GMT
Hi Guys
After trawling various 'official' sites - not getting through the red tape & not understanding the blurb etc.
Please can someone in a short synopsis let me know
A. What do I need to do to get Buse a passport.
B. What EU countries if any are this breed banned from & what are the implications travel wise of this etc?
Ju
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Post by sandaharr on Jan 15, 2007 13:26:28 GMT
You need to have her vacc against rabies.In one months time(some vets do it after 14 days) she will have a blood test to check the titre levels.If levels are good,you can take her with you and bring her back 6 months after the blood test.If you just want to take her out of the country immediately after the successful blood test,that is fine too,but she can't get back into Britain until 6 mths from date of blood test.She must also be microchipped.Some vacc. fail and have to be re-done-Razzy's did and then you have to start from scratch.
The only country I know that it is banned in is France,but if you want a way round that I will tell you on phone.
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Post by buliebuse on Jan 15, 2007 13:43:55 GMT
OK Confused .com here If I have her Rabies/blood tested etc & then leave it for after 6 months until we go away with her -(Presuming alls ok) does she still then have to wait for 6 months to re-enter the UK? Give me numbers to crunch anyday !  Ju |
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Post by sandaharr on Jan 15, 2007 14:51:27 GMT
No,she doesn't need to wait another 6 mths if blood test came back good,just the original 6mths from date of blood test.
Ju,wait 6mths after her successful test then take her for a holiday and you will be able to bring her back no probs.
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Post by mayahund on Jan 15, 2007 15:34:33 GMT
Over here you also have to re-vaccinate against rabies every year (i think it is, could have ben changed toe very 3) and get the passport stamped when you do so - but you don't need a new blood sample if you re-vaccinate in the timespan that is allowed.
To enter Sweden you also need the ordinary shots and you also need a stamp in the passport that the dog's been dewormed for tapeworm before entering. You also need to go into customs when you arrive at the Swedish boarder and tell them you're arriving with a dog. Same thing goes for Norway i believe.
Ewa
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Post by mayahund on Jan 15, 2007 15:38:22 GMT
Another thing to carry when traveling in Europe would be a mussel. Some places in Germany dogs like ours are not allowed without mussels. I'm sure I heard theres a few more places that has the same ruling. Annother hint; Luxembourg is the worst dog city in the world - You won't be allowed in any hotel with a dog in town.
Ewa
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Post by buliebuse on Jan 15, 2007 17:06:08 GMT
Hi Sandra/Ewa
Thanks for the info
Shall talk to my vets this week & get blood tests etc carried out.
As for a muzzle Eva - might have to skirt around Sweden & Norway then - have never had to muzzle Buse before. Tried once when we had problems with the RR - with disastrous consequences.
Paul you've ventured over with Toska to Denmark - whats your take on this ?
Ju
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Post by temwani on Jan 15, 2007 18:40:52 GMT
Hi Ju,
The thing to remember about your passport is it is not to get out of the UK but to get back in. So you have your rabies shot, wait at least 14 days for the antibodies to build up and then you have a blood test. Once the blood test is done with a successful result you can bring her back into the country after 6 months. So you can leave straight away but you have to have a 6 month holiday!
Paul has taken Toska to Denmark three times. She has to visit a vet in Denmark and be wormed and de-fleaed in the vets presence within 24 hours of returning to the UK. Toska always wears a muzzle when she sees a vet. I believe all dogs should be taught to wear one because in the event of an injury or illness where they are in severe pain all dogs might need a muzzle to allow a vet to examine the injury safely. Otherwise they may have to have an un-necessary anesthetic.
The easiest way to teach the wearing is to have a cloth muzzle where the dog puts her nose into the muzzle to reach a treat. (You can start with a bag or large sock and then move up to a proper basket muzzle. If the muzzle fits properly it should be no more stressful than a collar. It is in our eyes that it is awful - not the dogs. If your dog already wears a headcollar then a muzzle is a short step.
The bad thing about muzzles is other people's reaction to dog's wearing them.
Second step to the treats is to always go for a little walk with the muzzle on. If you even only walk to the car with the muzzle on, but always wear the muzzle, soon the dogs is saying "Where is my great muzzle let's put it on so that I can go for a walk".
Once the dog has accepted wearing the muzzle you only need to put on sometimes - but not only for nasty things like the vet.
Hope this helps.
Geri
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Post by buliebuse on Jan 16, 2007 9:36:04 GMT
Hi Geri
6 Months holiday sounds good to me!
Oddly enough Buses' jaw is too strong for a cloth muzzle - have tryed as you said with treats etc but to no avail.
She loves going to the vet - we take her every month for a weigh in, treats & petting.
When we were last there in December & they had to 'fiddle' around with her sore bits due to phanthom we just round the lead around her muzzle.
When we take her into town however we do use a 'halti' - not because of her , but due to other peoples reactions seeing a large dog just on a lead etc.
Ju
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Jan 16, 2007 10:59:53 GMT
Hello Ju, as we understand it. One rabies injection, minimum 30 days after a blood sample can be taken, 6 months after a successful titer test she can return to UK. However before she returns to UK, she has to be dewormed with a special wormer (Droncit) and treated for fleas with Frontline. This has to happen at least 24 hours and not more than 48 hours before reentry to UK.
Regards
S+A
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Post by temwani on Jan 16, 2007 18:44:24 GMT
Ju,
I don't think you need to force her to wear a muzzle or that you should if you don't want to. I just think it is a good thing to teach a dog to accept so that it is ok with it - if circumstances arose where it was necessary.
Geri
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Post by bulieboerboels on Jan 16, 2007 18:59:07 GMT
Hi Julie when I travel with Toska I take the ferry from Harwich to the Hook of Holland then drive through Holland through Germany and into Denmark.Toska stays in the car while on the ferry but have walked her on lead in Holland germany and Denmark without any problems and without a muzzle.On the way back as you get on the ferry they check the microchip on the dog is the same as on the paperwork.he rabies vaccination lasts for three years now and by keeping it up to date all that is required to renew your pet passport is the three yearly rabies jab.It is less driving for me this way and the beauty of it is you do not have to touch France.Regards Paul.
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Post by temwani on Jan 16, 2007 19:43:42 GMT
Ju, He forgot to mention he takes the night ferry so that Toska sleeps in the car - whilst he has an evening meal and a pint or two before snoozing the trip away in a cabin.  Geri |
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Post by mayahund on Jan 16, 2007 19:50:36 GMT
Don't want to scare the daylights out of you guys but I would NEVER leave my dog in the car on the ferry without me being able to check it every 30 minutes.
There has been accidents on the ferry between Sweden and Germany were car deck got so hot a couple of dogs died in the cars. They then changed the regulations to allowing passengers to go down and check their dogs if they brought a deckhand with them.
Ewa
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Post by temwani on Jan 16, 2007 20:13:26 GMT
Hi Ewa,
I have just bought a locking cage for my car so that if I have to leave dogs in it I can leave the back door up with the dogs secured.
Geri
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Post by mayahund on Jan 16, 2007 20:22:13 GMT
Gates would be better than a cage. A cage gets awfully hot due to it being so much smaller than the back of your car and air often can't come into is as well as into the back of the car.
But I'm a heat freak!
Ewa
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Post by temwani on Jan 16, 2007 21:59:45 GMT
Hi Ewa.
I don't understand how the cage would be hotter? It is built of steel bars so the temperature of the cage would be the same as inside the car. The point of having the cage lockable is so that the tail gate can be left open to prevent heat rising in the car. The cage takes up all of the space in the car so someone couldn't climb past it to get to the front.
Geri
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Jan 17, 2007 9:51:31 GMT
We also have a cage and the side door to the van is always open as it does get hot on the car deck. If you take the chunnel train, don´t worry we have been this route many times with a dog, no-one takes any notice of what breed it is. The laws in France are for people that live in France. If you have any doubts, get in touch with the French embassy.
Shaun
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Post by temwani on Jan 17, 2007 19:22:01 GMT
Shaun,
Do they check the dog when you board or leave the train?
Geri
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Post by bulieboerboels on Jan 21, 2007 10:51:00 GMT
Hi Ewa Toska always has the windows left open for her and I can check on her anytime during the crossing.She used to come work with me from being a puppy and is used to being in the car for periods of time although some of my other dogs would probably start to eat the car.Regards Paul.
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Jan 21, 2007 12:19:05 GMT
The only checks on the dog is on the French side on the return journey. Then they check before boarding.
Shaun
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Post by temwani on Jan 21, 2007 12:58:10 GMT
You mean with all the fuss about dog passports and they don't even check them when dogs enter the country? No wonder we are over run with illegal immigrants.
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Jan 22, 2007 21:47:49 GMT
You mean with all the fuss about dog passports and they don't even check them when dogs enter the country? No wonder we are over run with illegal immigrants. They are checked Geri, it just happens in France instead of in UK. |
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