Coming into season

[mayahund]

Good to hear all went well.
Just a word of warning, in a couple of days, when the itch in the stitches sets in, she might ask Sim to help "scratch" so keep em seperated for a while. But you probably already know this

[buliebuse]

Thanks Ewa
Yep they have to sleep separately at night & are only together when one of us(Me) is around.Sim seems to take on board that Buse 'isn't quite right' so is giving her a wide berth.
Took Sim out with Mums retriever yesterday & he didn't know how to interact - lots more socialiastion me thinks - he's just a big puff at the moment if big sis isn't around.Will go out again with Mums dog as she is quite a matriac @ 9yrs of age so she'll put him in his place etc.Did take him out on the Thursday as well whilst Buse was in but the only dogs to be seen were a pack of 3 adults - so really didn't want to give him a bad experience.Plus the fact they had 1 person with them only - so if they had decided to be nasty it would have been a bit tricky to rescue etc.
Ju

[buliebuse]

Hi Jenny
just re-read your last post - sorry.
Hope all is well with Bob take it he's a dog and not hubby
Ju

[jenny]

Hi Ju
Glad your girl is doing well. Yes, Bob is my main man, Tony is my husband!!! Make of that what you will!
I picked Bob up from the vets still very woozy, not a happy bunny by any stretch of the imagination, a bit like a bear with a hangover when someone's stolen the honeypot and he's just stepped on a nail! What a face on him!
I think he felt very vulnerable and sick, so pulled horrid faces at all the other dogs and warned them not to take advantage.
He's a bit better now, actually walking on the leg, but carrying it when he wants to go a bit faster, even stands on the bad one to pee! (and I thought he was smart)
A long road ahead of us, we'll get there but it's tough for a big, heavy dog to get around when one back leg is not working well. I don't know what's worse, him limping or me wincing!

[buliebuse]

Hi Jenny
Pleased to know Bob is making progress.Isn't it 'funny' with these dogs how they all react differently - mind you I have absolutely no idea how long Bobs op would have taken V Buses spaying.
Are you still planning on coming over to the UK a week earlier before Belgium & having a mad party with us beginning of September? - I do hope so
Regards
Ju
(PS LOL I'm trying to think if I had an ex husband called Bob & that's why I wasn't sure :

[jenny]

Hi Ju
Yes hoping to get there, just need to organise the flights S.A. to U.K to Belgium to U.K to S.A, must spend a few days with mum otherwise will get the daughter from hell award again this year!

[mayahund]

jenny said:

Hi Ju
Yes hoping to get there, just need to organise the flights S.A. to U.K to Belgium to U.K to S.A, must spend a few days with mum otherwise will get the daughter from hell award again this year!

Jenny if your in for the award 2;nd year in the row, why not make a stop oven in Sweden 17-19 of august and see some scandinavian dogs and meet people from all over Europe?

We would love to have you for the bbq, (please bring last puppy addition in pocket) over here.
Ewa

[sandaharr]

EWA NO!! That puppy is to come here ONLY!!
Well,perhaps not via Glasgow!!

[jenny]

Maybe Sweden early next year? I go to the U.K. 3-4 times a year, so a short hop to Europe is quite easy. Would love to see everyone and their dogs. Unfortunately, the pocket rocket (Minnie) will be more suitcase sized by then!
And Sandra, Glasgow is just no distance at all, so expect a visit too! (just make sure chocolate digestives and tea are well stocked!)
Jenny

[sandaharr]

Jen,for you I'd have in the Cadbury's digestives!!
BTW the Glasgow reference is because they car bombed the airport yesterday.

[jannikbb]

hi jenny, i understand your boy has just had a cruciate op. hope you don't mind me asking did he have the TPLO or TTA. i ask because my yogi has just had a TTA which is quite new over here in the UK. we were recommended this op because he is a big boy and it uses less metal, a titanium rod instead of steel plates and bolts. how did Bob do his cruciate? Yogi tried scaling a 6ft wooden fence, got tangled in the electric fence and fell really badly, i first thought he'd broken his leg! kind regards jan mitchell

[jenny]

Hi Jan
I think we've just met on the S.A. forum, I'm not stalking you, honestly!
I feel a bit of a prune about cruciate ligaments, until 6 weeks ago it was not something I had given a great deal of thought to, never having had a problem in 20 years. I admit I know very little either about the causes or the repair operations. Bob's came as a big shock. It was raining here (doesn't happen that often!) and I took the dogs for a quick run between downpours. I keep the grass short because of snakes and it was slippery. Bob went charging round the garden doing a Formula 1 impression, as usual, cornered too fast, legs went from underneath him and he crashed hard and awkwardly. When he got up, he was holding the left leg in the typical "cruciate" position, toe just touching the ground and I knew immediately what he had done. Came in, rang the vet and booked the op for the following morning. When they operated, the vet said he had done the ligament good and proper and also damaged the ligament on the other leg. We needed to get a fix done to the worse one, so he used the nylon replacement in order that the leg can be stabilised before the other ligament goes. I understand that the levelling op takes a lot longer to recover from, even though it is in the long term, a better outcome. We need to get Bob taking at least some weight on the repaired leg as soon as possible to try to limit the excess strain on the other damaged ligament. At the moment the vet is talking about repairing the other ligament in 2 weeks, but to be honest, I am not keen. I think I would rather wait as long as possible before putting him through this again. He is doing great under the circumstances and taking full weight on the repaired leg when walking, not even a limp! But when he wants to get somewhere faster, he just picks up the bad leg and carries it. Bearing in mind, this operation was done on Thursday and today is Sunday, I think it's amazing. Trying to get him to take the day off from his duties is the hardest thing, I keep telling him "it's o.k. you're on sick leave" but doesn't seem to be getting through. Bob's still in charge, 2,3 or 4 legs!
I would really appreciate any information anyone has regarding cruciate ligaments. What is the hereditary status? Why do some dogs snap them and others don't? Is it in part due to the massive musculature? Is it becoming more common in this breed?
All information would be very welcome. My young bitch puppy of 7 months also snapped a cruciate 6 weeks ago, this time no real cause could be pinpointed except a knock about 3 weeks earlier. I really need to know more.

[jenny]

Sandra
And they say South Africa's not safe! Just been watching SKY News about Glasgow airport, that's a bit too close for comfort! Come and live here, it's usually sunny, warm and you can't move without falling over a Boerboel. My idea of heaven! But there are some things I miss; Chocolate Digestives, Salad cream, doughnuts, a decent curry, Smokey bacon crisps and Branston pickle! And some things I don't; high prices, traffic jams, grey skies and having blue fingers and toes! Am I tempting you yet?

[jannikbb]

hi jenny, yes we have just met on the other forum . i don't think all cruciate breaks are hereditary weakness, in the case of your bob and my yogi it would seem just an accident, i think if yogi had inherited a problem it would have gone long before now, he is 4 years old and has always acted the twit, like your bob everything has to be done at mach 10 speed, always jumping in on and over everything rather than going around. i have heard dogs very young busting their cruciate without any accident happening, so there is possibly a hereditary flaw there.
I too would like to hear more about this if anyone has further info. kind regards jan

[sandaharr]

The incident in Glasgow is escalating now sadly with controlled explosions now being done on car bombs all over the area,in the hospital car park,in the doctors car park,outside a Mosque etc,all belonging to doctors,technicians or trainees from another country here in Scotland under false pretences.All but one have been arrested but 800 odd high alert terrorists have been uncovered in Britain now.SA sounds a safe place now!!
Do you stock up on everything when you come home?

[buliebuse]

Horrid , horrid 'people'
Can we not train our BBs to seek & search terrorists - I think they'd soon then think twice!
Ju

[jenny]

Hi Sandra
Keep safe won't you. Not a good atmosphere there I'm sure at the moment.
On a lighter note, yes my luggage doesn't bear close inspection when I come back to S.A. from England. Once I had something in my handluggage that showed up suspiciously on the X-ray machine and was asked to unpack it. Well, the look on the security man's face was a picture as out came Popcorn, salad cream, fruit pastilles, pot noodles (for teenage son - yuk!) poppadoms, sherbet dabs, chocolate digestives, oxos, squeeky dog toys and finally the offending item - a tin of Sharwoods Madras sauce! He didn't bother to check me for drugs, I was obviously quite unhinged anyway in his opinion! I have always thought if for some reason I ended up stranded on a deserted Island, at least I could knock up a decent curry!!! ;D

[bulieboerboels]

Hi Jenny hope Bob is soon recovered.Quite a few dogs here in the UK have had operations for cruciates.The vast majority seem to be from the same lines so that would suggest something hereditary although a friend at work had her Boxer dog damage her cruciates while jumping off one of the large round hay bales at her stables.Alot of people thought most were caused by knocks or falls although research now seems to be saying it is hereditary.Regards Paul.

[jenny]

Hi Paul
I've been doing a bit of research on cruciate ruptures and the results of several Rottweiller surveys. The evidence they gathered from around 800 dogs in 2 separate surveys, surprisingly showed that the condition is more frequent in females than males and is also suffered by some 28000 women athletes in America each year. The ruptures in females are not usually caused by external impact injuries, but more commonly occur when jumping, in the males it is more likely to be impact or accident that does the damage. As far as I could ascertain, no hereditary link has yet been made but it is thought that if genetics are involved it is likely to be a recessive gene with incomplete penetrance. The other theory is that the condition could be caused by a Calcium malabsorbtion problem and it is this trait that is inherited, not the actual cruciate rupture. I'm not sure about this, as in my mind if the dog has a Calcium problem, wouldn't this show up in other ways? Flat feet, weak joints etc. I think that there is still a lot we don't know.

[buliebuse]

Hi Guys
Wondering if anyone has experienced this problem.
Buse as you all know has been spayed - but last week seemed to be in season - all the signs but no blood loss.Moody, disobedient, swollen back end & teats, selective deafness etc.
What would anyone suggest?
Ju

[buliebuse]

Still struggling on this issue !
Please someone give me some suggestions.
Ju

[mayahund]

May 2, 2008 8:18:49 GMT buliebuse said:

Still struggling on this issue !
Please someone give me some suggestions.Ju

Never heard of anybody having these problems after spaying Ju but what I tend to do with Chili when she's PMS is to increase obedience work and exercise and give her less food. The loss of food will give her something else to distraught her. A bit of hunger is also a great motivator for work. This all gives her something else to concentrate on and will hopefully not throw her into a phantom pregnancy either.

Is it Buses first heat after being spayed? If not was she behaving the same the other time (after being spayed)?

[buliebuse]

Hi Ewa
No it was her second 'season time' after being spayed - but the first Sim was still with us & she did not show any of the signs.As I am at home now 24/7 she is very attached to me & everyone can laugh at this if they like but due to illness I am no longer able to take her out by myself as the slightest clip, as we all know BBs don't have brakes - she knocks me over & out !So I always need to ensure at the moment that someone is with me - extremely frustrating.Perhaps that change might also have something to do with it.
PS Sort yourself out as regards house swap - just had workmen in for the last few months & although small - its looking good.
Sandra just to let you know & you can LOL the 42" is in the wall !
Ju
PS she knocks me out on her enthusiastic recall - but is always there for me. But being responsible if I was out cold with no-one else with me then Buse would definitely go into guard mode if anyone else or dog came into the field - that is not an option I want to balance her life with.