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Post by bulieboerboels on Sept 11, 2006 10:04:46 GMT
Hi Julie give Buse a big cuddle for me,I do not think that intruder will be back in a hurry.Do you not think that Buse should have sat and wagged her tail at him instead as he was not posing a threat to her?After all we are told often enough that that is the correct Boerboel temperament(Well only by a certain posse.) Couldnt resist that one.Nice to know that Buse is there for you when needed.Regards Paul.
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 11, 2006 10:30:54 GMT
Hi Paul
Will give her a big cuddle - she was a really good dog this weekend.It was Dads 70th & 15 people came round to ours for brunch after the party etc & she was cool. Took her to a very busy T&C at Frampton and she didn't eat anyone or anyones' dog !
If i'd have wanted a poodle i'd have brought a poodle - Ha Ha!
Speak to you soon
Ju
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Post by helena on Sept 12, 2006 6:50:28 GMT
[quote author=buliebuse board=general thread=1156784706 post=1157614361)
He then took one look at me - bear in mind it was 3 in the morning & ran off over the frontside edge of the garage.
That to me is what I expect from a BB.
When visitors come as long as either myself or Clive are about she is as good as gold.If we're not in, no matter how well shes knows them she won't let them in.
Regards
Ju[/quote]
Yes that is a correct behaviour,but my dog does not do things like that.She just wag her little tail ; )
What i am saying is:you can expect a behaviour,but you do not KNOW if your dog actually have these behaviours you expect,until the dog has been tested or something happenes.
I expected my dog Natt not to protect me,and she did.
I expected my dog Sabrina to be protective she is not.
So so much fro expetations.
But it is always nice to hear stories like you told.
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Post by mayahund on Sept 12, 2006 18:01:47 GMT
Paul! Sorry for not replying before! Thanx for the invitation but a small question of definition; I told Meike I wanted to go to the sun - When on earth will I find that in the UK ;D (Just couldn't resist  O we will come in due time! If you come over with Tosca I've got a great idea - Leave her with A & S and come see us!!! We're only a trainride away! Beers always cold over here too!! Ewa |
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Post by temwani on Sept 12, 2006 18:09:51 GMT
Ewa,
Don't encourage him - he gets up to enough mischief with Shaun when he goes over to Denmark with TosKa!However it would give Anne a rest!!
You can guarantee sun the first week in september - as soon as all the kids go back to school we always get a mini heat wave!
Geri
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Post by mayahund on Sept 12, 2006 18:17:12 GMT
Hi Ju! Sounds like great behavior to me. And what I would expect from my own dogs. Presently I will probably only get it from Mubi but Chilis catching on! I know what I put in the definition of a "self assuered" dog. I was only trying to get to the point that its a word with as many meanings as we probably are owners! I have one view on when my dogs are selfassured. The rest of you have others. Some similarities but to me it's all down to our level of tolerance, dogknowledge and what we were expecting to find in the breed. Since the breed is rather new to most of us, the breed standard that comes out from the diffrent breedclubs do not define it and since we have absolutly no means of comparing my dog to yours in a kind of "standard ability" I sometimes feel "locked to my hands" When asked questions about the breed and diffrent breeders, what do you say to give your words and breedknowledge some value? In my case i'm standing there with my 2 fantastically social girls, that will love anybody and drool all over them - How do you make a potential buyer realize, this might not be the standard? And then next question; What is the standard?  I'm guessing here but Anne & Shaun ought to be the people that met most bb's live (atleast in Scandinavia) - It would be interesting to hear what kind of variations you see in the mentality of the bb. But anybody that has lived with a lot of bb's thoughts will be appreciated. Now, I am talking about my Scandinavian experience of the bb - I have not visited S.A (but would ofcourse love too) and I haven't met any UK dogs either so i'm not jumping anybodys throat (on this mess.board anyway  The question that keeps me awake at night is; There seems to be so many "expert opinions" on what a bb should be and no real standard available or intrest in getting a standard (from the breedclubs) so I'm kind of wondering how do people know what a bb should be? Ewa |
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Post by bulieboerboels on Sept 29, 2006 10:37:33 GMT
Hi Ewa our Boerboels are all different.Some are very sociable with people,some will tolerate other people and some will tolerate no one but us.All of our dogs are fine with us .Other Boerboels in the UK are also different,some we have seen are very soft and sociable,others are sociable when told to be so and others are not approachable.Bearing in mind they are mediom to large Guard/Protection dogs I suppose it depends on every individuals idea of how they want their dogs to be.Even if they have two left feet or will not guard as owners we still love them faults and all.With such variation I think it would be very difficult to say what is and what is not a correct standard.Just my thoughts regards Paul.
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Post by buliebuse on Sept 30, 2006 7:20:11 GMT
Hi Ewa I don't think, as Paul said there is a right or wrong behaviour in a BB (Obviously as long as they're not downright vicious). How many 2 children do you know who are the same? I think it very much depends on personal circumstances , why you wanted a BB in the first place & how you treat them - again very much like children. I wanted Buse for protection (for various reasons) , having children though I did not want a dog that would not tolerate the rash movements etc of not only them but other children of all shapes & sizes & numbers. Previous to Buse I had a very large Rottie who was a darling.One night she cornered a burglar in the back garden via his throat. This sounds terrible I know but I had instilled in her the need to guard without hurting , she merely was restraining & there were only slight puncture wounds around the neck.She let go when I decided to call her off - after a cup of coffee, wanted to teach the thief a lesson. I guess this note will probably be in for some stick - but hey ho. Buse guards me & my immediate family & that is all I ask of her. When out & about she very much acts like a labrador  Ju |
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Post by Shaun Eric Ewing on Sept 30, 2006 8:38:31 GMT
Hi Julie, we also bought our first Boerboel because we wanted a guard dog. We had been burgled 2 times when we had Labradors and once after our last Labrador died. We were pretty fed up and decided the Boerboel was the right dog for us.
We have had 4 attempts to be burgled but the dogs in the house made sure the burglar stayed outside the house.
When people come to look at our puppies we first show them the adult dogs first. We have the whole range from very reserved to very friendly. We also tell people that they are buying a guard dog and that there are 2 sides to the Boerboel. The side you see when the owner is there and have invited people in and the side you see if you enter the house or property without permission.
Our Boerboels are all well behaved and can all meet visitors. Shaun and I are both dominant and the dogs know that. If they had been living with people who were not dominant our dogs would not all be the good dogs they are now. That is something very important to consider when you decide who you sell your dogs to.
We have heard some people in UK say that our Mollie has a "less than stable temperament" and that she is a dangerous dog. That rumour was started when Mollie was in UK the first time. She would run loose on the property and if people came up the driveway she would bark. The people she was staying with would then tell her off for bad behaviour.
In my opinion that was wrong. Mollie was doing exactly what I would expect from a guard dog. We have also seen her stop a stranger who was leaving our house with a computer, making him stand still until we came to see if it was ok and he was not a thief.
With her in the house I feel 100% safe. She will not back away if there are problems and she will not bite unless it is really needed. Haven't had the need for that yet and hopefully never will.
I think a dog is self assured if it can meet strangers, sniff them, keep an eye on them and ignore them as long as they behave. If people turn out to be a danger to me and my family then I expect the dog to step in. A dog that is self assured will do that.
It has got nothing to do with the dog being friendly to all people or not. A friendly dog that loves everone is not nessesarily a good guard dog or self assured. A dog that is very aggressive, barks at strangers and has to be kept on a leash when you have visitors is also not self assured and it might not even be a good guard dog. It might just be scared and dangerous.
My opinion for what it is worth.
Regards
Anne
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Post by buliebuse on Oct 2, 2006 9:13:41 GMT
Hi Anne I totally agree with everything you've said & in my opinion Buse meets all thoses criteria. We like yourselves want a dog to be part of the family , know their place - but when we have visitors she has never been shut out etc. Why should she , she is part of the family. Occasionally when we are 'gang' visited we remove her to the conservatory from the lounge, wait a couple of minutes for everyone to sit down etc & then let her back in. Good to know I must be doing something right  Ju |
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